Monday, December 31, 2007

"America was formed as a Christian nation!"

I always see this one argument, in almost all of the debates I have witnessed, read, been involved in, etc. It is "America was formed as a Christian nation!". Of course, the people who say this obviously have no idea what the shit they are talking about. I suppose it would make sense to say that America is a Christian majority nation, since that is how I see America. But saying that America was formed on the belief of a supernatural man in the sky called God is absolute horse shit.
If the Christians who say these stupid things would do some research they would find out that in article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, it says this:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Read that a few times, Christians. This article in the treaty is what brought up the principle of Separation of Church and State, which I am a major supporter of.

But Christians are pretty tricky, so they will say "Well, the founding fathers were mostly Christian". So what? There religious beliefs had nothing to do with America. They were theirs and theirs alone. For the record, there were people of other beliefs that were founding fathers. From wikipedia -

Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Some of the 1787 delegates had no affiliation. The others were Protestants except for three Roman Catholics, C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons. Among the Protestants Constitutional Convention delegates, 28 were Episcopalian, 8 were Presbyterians, 7 were Congregationalists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Dutch Reformed, and 2 were Methodists.

My next rant about Christians is going to be how they think that we Atheists are shoving beliefs down their throats.

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